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Article: Postgres mail list traffic over time



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2008-11-21 10:23:25.0
183361 2008-11-21 10:23:25.0 Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Bruce Momjian <noway@spam.com> writes:
>>> I also was confused by its flatness. I am finding the email traffic
>>> almost impossible to continue tracking, so something different is
>>> happening, but it seems it is not volume-related.
>> Yes, my perception also is that it's getting harder and harder to keep
>> up with the list traffic; so something is happening that a simple
>> volume count doesn't capture.

If measured in "bytes of the gzipped mbox" it looks like there's a
*huge* increase of volume on Hackers in the past 3 months - well
over twice the historical levels; and maybe 4X 2002-2006.

Graphs of this metric can be seen here:

http://0ape.com/postgres_mailinglist_size/

In some ways I think compressed mbox sizes are a more fair way
of measuring the bandwidth for these lists since it (correctly)
counts a large gzipped path as requiring more mental effort than
people top-posting brief messages on top of old threads.


(Data from commands like
HEAD http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/mbox/pgsql-hackers.2008-09.gz | grep Content-Length
)

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183367 2008-11-21 10:26:32.0 On Thursday 20 November 2008 7:59:31 pm Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <noway@spam.com> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> So, to a first approximation, the PG list traffic has been constant
> >> since 2000. Not the result I expected.
> >
> > I also was confused by its flatness. I am finding the email traffic
> > almost impossible to continue tracking, so something different is
> > happening, but it seems it is not volume-related.
>
> Yes, my perception also is that it's getting harder and harder to keep
> up with the list traffic; so something is happening that a simple
> volume count doesn't capture.

I am still relatively new to Postgres, but my impression is that the questions
have gotten harder/more in depth. Fewer, How do you pronounce Postgres? and
more, Explain the various isolation levels for transactions and how does that
affect my particular situation?

>
> Does anyone have the data to break it down per mailing list? That might
> yield some more insight.
>
> regards, tom lane



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183369 2008-11-21 10:29:38.0 On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 08:18 -0800, Ron Mayer wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Bruce Momjian <noway@spam.com> writes:
> >>> I also was confused by its flatness. I am finding the email traffic
> >>> almost impossible to continue tracking, so something different is
> >>> happening, but it seems it is not volume-related.
> >> Yes, my perception also is that it's getting harder and harder to keep
> >> up with the list traffic; so something is happening that a simple
> >> volume count doesn't capture.
>
> If measured in "bytes of the gzipped mbox" it looks like there's a
> *huge* increase of volume on Hackers in the past 3 months - well
> over twice the historical levels; and maybe 4X 2002-2006.

Its because we eliminated the -patches mailing list.

Joshua D. Drake

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183410 2008-11-21 11:13:10.0 "Joshua D. Drake" <noway@spam.com> writes:
> On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 08:18 -0800, Ron Mayer wrote:
>> If measured in "bytes of the gzipped mbox" it looks like there's a
>> *huge* increase of volume on Hackers in the past 3 months - well
>> over twice the historical levels; and maybe 4X 2002-2006.

> Its because we eliminated the -patches mailing list.

Yeah, I think this is most probably explained by repeat postings
of successive versions of large patches. Still, Ron might be on to
something. I had not considered message lengths in my previous
numbers ...

regards, tom lane

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